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Author Topic: Mengapakah Paparan Menu Utama Menggunakan Bahasa Inggeris?  (Read 1301 times)
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« on: April 18, 2008, 01:18:14 AM »

Salam semua..

bukan untuk di jadikan isu... sekadar pertanyaan... mungkin pihak JPN / engkabang ada alasan yang munasabah untuk itu... rasanya elok di kongsikan bersama... rasanya Bahasa Malaysia yakni Bahasa Kebangsaan kita dah cukup indah untuk di manfaatkan sebaik mungkin dalam engkabang.net.. maksud saya dari segi paparan menu utama...

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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 06:47:50 AM »

 Cool... kita tungu penjelasan big BOS engkabang..
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 08:54:46 AM »

Salam semua..

bukan untuk di jadikan isu... sekadar pertanyaan... mungkin pihak JPN / engkabang ada alasan yang munasabah untuk itu... rasanya elok di kongsikan bersama... rasanya Bahasa Malaysia yakni Bahasa Kebangsaan kita dah cukup indah untuk di manfaatkan sebaik mungkin dalam engkabang.net.. maksud saya dari segi paparan menu utama...



 Grin bukan itu saja kalau boleh bahasa yang digunakan utk berkomunikasi juga lah dalam Bahasa Kebangsaan ....sekadar cadangan sahaja. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2008, 10:02:23 AM »

sejarah sebenar engkabang adalah untuk guru-guru ICT sarawak..... subjek ICT ini diajar di dalam Bahasa Inggeris seperti mp sains dan matematik. ini juga sedikit sebanyak dapat membantu guru-guru ICT meningkatkan penguasaan Bahasa Inggeris kami dan menambah keyakinan kami untuk berhadapan dengan murid-murid....... melihat keberkesanannya ia telah dibuka dan didedahkan secara meluas kepada semua yang berminat........ itulah sebabnya..... bukan sengaja tidak menggunakan bahasa kebangsaan...


harap tidak menyentuh dan mengguris hati mana-mana pihak Grin Grin
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 10:35:43 AM »

yes Sir.... Grin
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 11:25:38 AM »


Memang betul apa yang Cikgu Onn kata tu.... Originally, this portal started by the Sarawak ICT teachers. After the launching, it was opened to all teachers throughout the country. And here you can see, not only the teachers but also the Pegawai Pendidikan seluruh Sarawak termasuk Pengarah... So, we have 2 languages used here.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2008, 11:29:48 AM »

O… begitu ceritanya, memandangkan berlaku pertambahan pengunjung engkabang & ahli baru yang mendaftar yang mungkin berlainan latar belakang dan opsyen.. Rasanya elok kalau pihak engkabang memikirkan perkara ini…apatah lagi engkabang.net adalah sejenis forum berbentuk pendidikan.. 

Cadangan : Papapan menu utama menggunakan Bahasa Malaysia yang seragam.

Ini sekadar cadangan... bukan keputusan..

Apapun, tahniah & syabas diucapkan kerana engkabang.net semakin mendapat tempat di hati pengunjung-pengunjung internet khasnya para guru & pelajar.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2008, 11:36:55 AM »

Grin bukan itu saja kalau boleh bahasa yang digunakan utk berkomunikasi juga lah dalam Bahasa Kebangsaan ....sekadar cadangan sahaja. Wink

Tentang ini, mungkin boleh tolak ansur, tak kisah lah Bahasa Inggeris @ Bahasa Malaysia...

Banyak forum di internet ( Bukan berbentuk pendidikan ) yang menggunakan Bahasa kebangsaan untuk paparan menu utama... misalnya putera.com, melayu.com ( Forum yang biasa saya masuk )
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2008, 12:00:20 PM »

Hmmm...mungkin ada rasional sebaliknya...Memanglah semenjak kita merdeka Bahasa Malaysia adalah bahasa kebangsaan kita tak dinafikan...dan telah difahami oleh masyarakat Malaysia (Cuba rujuk perkataan 'Malaysia') Roll Eyes

Penggunaan Bahasa Inggeris untuk paparan menu
mungkin istilah penggunaannya sesuai atau tak terlalu panjang

Mungkin pengguna internet telah biasa dengan penggunaan istilah dalam Bahasa Inggeris..
Boleh...bukan tak boleh..... Smiley

Tetapi kemungkinan Engkabang.net bukan sahaja akan dilayari oleh Guru di Sarawak atau Guru di Semananjung..

kemungkinan suatu hari nanti tak mustahil ada di antara guru dari negara lain yang berminat untuk turut serta memberi sumbangan idea dan membaca artikel dari forum engkabang.net dan menjadi lebih Global kan.. Wink Cheesy

Minta maaf sekiranya pendapat saya tak begitu bernas..tapi sebagai satu visi untuk difikirkan bersama...

ps..saya rasa perkataan 'kurang memartabatkan e.n' tak begitu..syok la...sorry ye bukan tujuan untuk menguris sesiapa..we are all Malaysian..peace..
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2008, 12:05:42 PM »


Ya...memang dah ada pun pengunjung dari negara barat menjenguk forum kita... menurut statistik yang telah ditunjukkan oleh webmaster kepada kami dulu...

Apa-apa pun terima kasih atas cadangan-cadangan yang membina cikgu-cikgu semua...
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2008, 10:03:19 AM »

Bahasa Kebangsaan or Engish are acceptable and readable in this forum. THere are aceptable world wide and people learn them as a language. For a web using both languages is a bonus to the users of the forum. We can learn one extra language and it makes us a better person.
Furthermore, this web site is originated from ICT teacher forum. I would very much keep the original taste of it until the department can employ someone working fulltime one this web and write another BM version of it. Like when you first visit AirAsia or others, you can choose the language you prefer.
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Just my view, just sharing, no hard feeling.  Wink

Just a thought, should teachers avoid using 'local bahasa' and 'bahasa SMS' in this forum.  Huh Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2008, 01:38:26 PM »

I agree that the phrase "kurang memartabatkan" is a bit too harsh. I just hope that after this, nobody will question why we need to teach our students English in school since by doing that shows that Bahasa "kurang dimartabatkan" for some.

A lot of comments has been posted regarding this matter so I will not add more to it. Everyone has their right to their opinion.

However, I would like to suggest that we try to think of a better approach or way to ask something that will not offend others or coming out with statements that doesn't sound too harsh. We tell our students to think before they do or say anything, maybe we should do the same. Instead of saying "Mengapakah Engkabang.net kurang memartabatkan Bahasa Kebangsaan kita ?", maybe it could have been said as "Mengapa muka utama engkabang.net menggunakan Bahasa Inggeris?". Doesn't it sound better or simpler or politer or non-accusing? Think about it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2008, 02:24:14 PM »

Okay.. thanks for all response/  Suggestions ..sorry about that.
I already edit the topic. thanks you.

Sekurang-kurangnya pihak engkabang dah sedia dengan jawapan andaikata ada soalan serupa suatu hari nanti. Seperti di awal topik, bukan untuk dijadikan isu, ianya sekadar pertanyaan dan cadangan.

Kesimpulannya, pihak engkabang.net ada alasan yang munasabah untuk itu.

Terima kasih...
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 05:45:03 PM »

dear friends,

our schools [smk balai ringin] were among the selected school to have a join venture project with British Council under the program dreams and teams. Project between BC - JPNS has been expended with another project called Asean Dialogues. Consist of schools from Swak - UK - Thailand. i promoted to some of the BC represenatative to join in this portal. They are excited to join in and maybe contribute some thoughts. Using english for me will give us extra bonus because others who can understand english can also participate in the forum. and yet, we can still use our Bahasa Kebangsaan at the same time.. Why don't ask the moderator to create a menu for Bahasa Kebangsaan... hehe... whatever related can post inside that topic. hehe... Grin
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2008, 06:09:45 PM »

Pada pendapat saya, Bahasa Malaysia dan Bahasa Inggeris baik. Guru-guru yang mengajar menggunakan bahasa Inggeris elok guna bahasa Inggeris di sini. Begitu juga sebaliknya. Manakala bukan guru bahasa, boleh menggunakan mana-mana bahasa yang dia hendak gunakan. Apa yang penting, kita sama-sama membangun bersama engkabang.net
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2008, 10:33:49 PM »

Dear commentators for this forum,

From my perspectives,

Language should not be made an issue in this portal, we have the rights to choose whatever languages that we think can initiate communication or interaction among members. Due respect has been given to our bahasa kebangsaan. And we must be aware that our country is trying very hard to raise the standard of English among teachers....esp. the PPSMI teachers or else we will be left behind in this globalised world. We must remember the 'Pendemokrasian pendidikan' for that matter. ...we teachers should be willing to learn English [not be shy! ] ,or else we will be branded as incompetent in carrying out our duty as teachers. Knowledge has no limitation, and let there be no obstacles in achieving educational excellence for the benefits of our younger generation. "guru cemerlang negara terbilang"

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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2008, 09:30:17 AM »

Saya tidak fikir perkara ini (BM@BI) perlu menjadi isu. Mermartabatkan BM tidak bererti BI perlu dipinggirkan.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2008, 09:34:04 AM »

 Grin Grin... Tunggu penjelasan TOKEY engkabang.net..
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2008, 09:58:46 AM »

 :DSemua ada jawapan tersendiri Wink  Tepuk dada tanya selera Grin
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2008, 09:38:57 PM »

:DSemua ada jawapan tersendiri Wink  Tepuk dada tanya selera Grin

Oppss.. sori cikgu lebih baik jangan tepuk dada tanya selera. BIla sebut selera ni susah kita nak kawal nanti. Ada pelbagai selera. Paling baik tepuk dada tanya minda / akal. Grin Grin Grin

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