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« on: May 25, 2008, 04:27:15 PM »

Anyone who is involved as advisor for ISCF at your school or you are passionate in reaching out to your students via ISCF, please keep in touch so that we can create a group and encourage one another. God bless.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 06:09:24 PM »

Great to see someone like you who is zealous about the ISCF. At the moment, my school has different Christian groups, but I am not directly involved in the teaching/sharing/leading of the groups.

God will bless you and your work.

Shalom aleihem!
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 06:52:38 PM »

Great at least we can share some thing about this..
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 07:25:33 PM »


   Hello Charles... I really admire your mum and dad to have such a good and obedient son like you.
Hai, if my children love the Lord like this... I think I am very happy already.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2008, 12:46:05 AM »

Dear Elsie,

Our children are not comparable to rain, flood, or earthquake that warrant us to use the word IF - if the rain comes, if it floods, if..if. They're human who have soul and spirit that can be moulded and nurtured. Skinner and Piaget had proven that a child is just like a clay. If you want a statue out of them, you do it. We don't saya, IF it become a statue! because it will not become a statue just be saying it.

So there shouldn/t be any IF in our language for our children especially in education.

The word IF pulls me a decade backward. I want to see the sunshine of the year 2020 now.

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2008, 01:01:44 AM »


A very meaningful advice from our KS. I've learn a lot from him through this engkabang.net. Thank you so much, Mr. Awangku.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 01:56:02 PM »

   Hello Charles... I really admire your mum and dad to have such a good and obedient son like you.
Hai, if my children love the Lord like this... I think I am very happy already.

Ehem..., I am not against your comment, but some mums and dads sometimes put their children under too much pressure to be someone that you want them to be, not what they are. That usually backfired, and can cause tension between the family members themselves. All parents want their children to be the best of the best, but then again, we are the same only as humans, but having different personalities. That, we have to respect. Cry
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 03:33:19 PM »

Thanks for all the responces (related and irrelevant) and comments so far on ISCF. Let's get on to the business as this is post is only for ISCF teacher advisor or teachers who are keen to help students via ISCF ministry.

Really appreciate that. Thanks

Sometimes Words Are Needless
Unique ministry opportunities are often available when you least expect it.

Mike and Marie Meaney of Bellevue, Washington, have a unique ministry in their retirement years.

After completing 40 years in their respective careers as caterer and teacher, they knew God wasn’t through with them. Sensing God’s direction, Marie, on her 60th birthday, flew to Lusaka, Zambia, Central Africa, to assess needs of teachers and students.

She returned home and began writing a curriculum for children at risk. She developed teacher training seminars and raised money for African schools.

Mike, a double amputee, found his heart touched by the many disabled people he saw in Africa, where disabled people are often perceived as having little value and are cast off with minimal help from the government.

In response to the need they saw, Mike and Marie developed a non-profit ministry called Africa Village Classrooms. Their work grew to include evangelistic remote villages and the adopting of 50 orphans.

Mike is happy to say, “God took my feet and told me to go!” When he puts his arms around a little handicapped child, words are needless. He is in that moment the personification of Christ’s love.

Mike and Marie are currently working in conjunction with a local church in Wamala, Uganda, where two classrooms have been built with a church alongside.

Seventeen AIDS orphans reside there. The school has 65 students. It is beautifully equipped with a Christ-centered curriculum that is heuristic in its approach to learning (learning by discovery, invention, creative thinking, as in “Eureka, I found it!”).

Mike now serves on the National Council to the Disabled, a Ugandan government committee chartered with the task of improving the plight and status of disabled people.

Through the generosity of American Christians, wheelchairs, surgeries, and other helps are being provided. A school for the blind has been established in Wamala.

Mike and Marie joyfully watch God raise people up from the dirt to being able to walk or use a wheelchair.

For the future, they are planning a children’s village that will include a guest house and dining area for teams who come to assist in ministry. Small homes for orphans will be built with a widow as the “house mama.” A farm and vegetable garden, schools, and career development center will help the home become self-sustaining.

At age 67, the Meaney’s say they are still having the time of their life. Has it been difficult?

“Oh yes,” they say, “but every difficulty is far outweighed by blessing. We know the source of our strength and resources. It is Acts 1:8. ‘But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses …’”



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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 07:12:39 PM »

Thanks for all the responces (related and irrelevant) and comments so far on ISCF. Let's get on to the business as this is post is only for ISCF teacher advisor or teachers who are keen to help students via ISCF ministry.


Opps, sorry. And thanks for the reminder.

p/s A posting here is seen by all who have registered under engkabang, so don't be surprised to receive responses, related or irrelevant. Grin Grin
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 09:28:45 PM »

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Well, well.... Thank you for the advice.....
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 02:43:11 PM »

Dear Charles,
I am an ISCF advisor in my school. Just to exchange ideas. What do you do in your ISCF? How many members do you have? Other than you, any one else helping?
Thanks.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2008, 11:58:46 PM »

Always pray for one another ok, bcos there are many problems faced by ISCF in schools.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 09:38:54 PM »

I think where there are human beings, problems cannot be avoided.
Since Charles did not reply my questions, I will just share what we do in the Iscf.
We have Bible study twice a month. Prayer meeting is on once a month and we sometimes watch Christian vCD eg. Cartoons from the Bible or Focus on the Family VCD - The Odyssey cartoon series.
Every meeting we start with praise and worship followed by ice breaker game, then the main activity for that week. We also have Bible verse to memorise each week. Students get a prize.
We just had our year end party with pot bless. Each bring a dish. The food was more than what we could eat.
We usually find attendance a problem as students rather join other interesting and more 'beneficial' clubs. like computer club. To solve this, we give each student an attendance coupon where they can exchange for little gifts.
My colleague, Ms Yeo and I take turns leading the group. We praise God that this year has been rewarding as the members are all from lower forms and they are more keen than the seniors from past experience. Perhaps less 'distractions'. We have been very encouraged by our Iscf members. Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 12:53:55 PM »

is there YCSF in other school....Huh?
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2009, 01:21:18 PM »

Dear all,

Sorry for long silence. Iscf in my school run in different modes as we are into teaching on fundamental Christian doctrines and practices as most of them are norminal Christians background. At the moment, I'm using few books for the Christian Education in ISCF Teknik Miri. As my school is rather unique, we only have Sec 4 and 5 students, so our duration time with each students is only 2 years. We have weekly meeting (Persekutuan ISCF on Fridays, 12.30pm-2pm) and then for this year, we will proceed with Discipleship classes.

Anyone who just join us are encourage to enrol in Kelas Jawapan Kehidupan. It's a blue cover booklet by Bible League and it comes with Buku Perjanjian Baru & Mazmur and the whole set is only at RM1. It is a very powerful tool to help the students to understand what is the gospel and share it with their friends and family.

Next we have Teruskan Hidup Bersama Kristus (RM3, green color cover) also by Bible League with special offer to get Alkitab (complete bible in BM) at only RM8. So all together only RM11. It's a great tool for advance class after one accepted Christ and also for follow-up.

Level 3, we conduct the Alpha course in BM. Alpha was started by the Revd Charles Marnham, a curate at Holy Trinity, Brompton, a Church of England parish in London. The name 'Alpha' was suggested by Tricia Marnham, Charles' wife. It started as a course for church members on the basics of the Christian faith but then began to be used as an introduction for those interested in the faith. In 1990 the Revd Nicky Gumbel, at that time a curate at Holy Trinity, took over the running of the course[3] at the invitation of the Revd Sandy Millar, the then vicar, and oversaw its revision and expansion.

In 2008, over 33,500 courses were offered in 163 countries by Anglican, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, British New Church Movement and Orthodox [4] denominations. By 2008 proponents claimed over 11 million people worldwide had attended an Alpha course (two million in the UK).[5]

The complete list of topics covered are from the chapters of Nicky Gumbel's book Questions of Life:

    * Is there more to life than this? (previously Christianity: Boring, Untrue and Irrelevant?)
    * Who is Jesus?
    * Why did Jesus die?
    * How can we have faith?
    * Why and how do I pray?
    * Why and how should I read the Bible?
    * How does God guide us?
    * Who is the Holy Spirit?
    * What does the Holy Spirit do?
    * How can I be filled with the Holy Spirit?
    * How can I resist evil?
    * Why and how should I tell others?
    * Does God heal today?
    * What about the church?
    * How can I make the most of the rest of my Life?
  • [6]

And of course, at last for those who desires more advance level, we'll conduct SPM Bible Knowledge class based on book of Luke and Acts.

You can contact Ps Albert Lawrence (012-4302429) from Bible League Malaysia based in Miri to send you samples of the materials they have and use them in your ISCF.

God bless.
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2009, 01:26:28 PM »

Sorry, correction Pastor Albert Lawrence hp. no is at 013-8495813 and sample of Kursus Alpha can be obtained from Anglican Diocese of Kuching/Sabah or any Anglican churches nearby you as it is widely used among them.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2009, 04:29:46 PM »

Thanks Charles for the detailed and helpful reply about ISCF. I hope it'll help other ISCF teachers too.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2009, 08:55:11 PM »

Well, well, well Praise the Lord for this forum.  In posts to come i would like to share pictures from my ISCF in SMK Belaga when i was there ... you can view at another forum TCF
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2009, 04:57:21 PM »

Dear all ISCF Teacher advisors,

Shalom and how are you all doing? The following is an article which I hope can encourage you all the more as you invest your time, effort, energy and finance into ISCF ministry. I'm suggesting that we continue to pray and fast for ISCF ministry every Wednesdays on the concerns below:

1. The school authority will continue experience wisdom and God's grace in running the school and allow the ISCF to be runned.
2. More Christian teachers will respond to assist in whatever possible way (especially in doing follow-up, mentoring and teaching the Bible) to the Christian students
3. Christian Teachers will respond in helping developing BM materials (Christian Education) in helping the students to grow spiritually in God
4.  Christian teachers able to see the needs to be equipped with sufficient theological training in line with existing local churches or bible school/seminary to enable them to minister effectively among the students.Hence, pastors and priests will be able to see ISCF advisors as mini-pastors and the needs to help ISCF via the teachers' equipping by conducting suitable courses at church level and financially, man-power to assist the teachers.
5. God's leading and spiritual covering over the ISCF teachers and students in running ISCF ministry. Remember the devil is doing his best to stop and destroy us.
6. ISCF Teacher advisor will continue to grow spiritually in Him despite busy involve with school works and ISCF ministry. Wisdom in planning time with God, family and personal time.

God bless.
In His Service,
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God is the Good Potter. I am most often the Not-So-Good Clay. My job is to spin and to stay put in the center of the wheel.

The Potter’s job is to design. Sometimes I don’t appreciate how fast the Potter spins me, or how tightly His skillful hands force my shape.

I forget that the Potter likes to use two hands and in my opinion a few too many external instruments along the way to help carve me into His beauty. But my job is to remain willing for Him to make the passionate transfer of heart and mind from potter to clay.

In order for me to alter my shape and become something more, motion is essential. It’s impossible for idle clay to change.

The same holds true for dry clay. It tends to shatter rather than mold, so the Potter finds ways for the clay to remain moist. Once the shape is found by the Potter, He must trade moisture for fire in order to retain the shape He has created. Fire is the only agent that makes me permanent.

I find an eerie similarity between the process of being shaped on the potter’s wheel and the process Nehemiah went through in rebuilding Jerusalem’s wall (see Neh. 2:1-6:15). Like Ezekiel’s bones, soon Nehemiah’s “stones” would be rattling and reorganizing themselves into something new.

At first glance, however, there was no way Nehemiah could see where his initial midnight survey was leading.

“Then I arose in the night, I and a few men with me; I told no one what my God had put in my heart to do at Jerusalem. ... And I went out by night ... and viewed the walls of Jerusalem which were broken down and its gates which were burned with fire” (Neh. 2:12-13, NKJV).

All Nehemiah could see was the broken walls. All he could do was weep for the lost dignity of Israel. He pleaded for the cause of rebirth.

The once glorious walls that surrounded the city of Jerusalem were both the fortress and the splendor of Israel. Now they lay like lost ruins, the result of Nebuchadnezzar’s militias and their systematic destruction some 162 years earlier. With great pleasure Nebuchadnezzar had pillaged the instruments of Israel’s praise, signaling the start of a 70-year captivity.

Once their captivity was over, King Cyrus granted Israel the freedom to return and rebuild. But as the years passed there was no discernable improvement.

The broken walls remained broken. After 94 years the best that could be said about the wall was that the rubble had been rearranged.

By the time Nehemiah was kicking about the misplaced rocks, most in Jerusalem had lost their focus and the memory of why God had brought their ancestors home. The dream was officially abandoned. In other words, incompleteness was the new way of life.

That is, until Nehemiah arrived. Consumed with holy despair and a burning desire for change, the Lord filled Nehemiah with new ideas on how to finally rebuild the wall—prophetic new paradigms that would produce progress after nearly a century of marginal results.

As Nehemiah rallied his troops and began to make progress, it became apparent to Nehemiah’s enemies that this was more than wishful thinking. Threatened and angered, Sanballat and Tobiah attacked the Jews emotionally, financially and physically.

“So we built the wall, and the entire wall was joined together up to half its height, for the people had a mind to work. Now it happened, when Sanballat, Tobiah, the Arabs, the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites heard that the walls of Jerusalem were being restored and the gaps were beginning to be closed, that they became very angry” (Neh. 4:6-7).

Sanballat became Israel’s official sandpaper, rubbing raw open wounds on the workforce—not with shackles, but with searing words.

A steady volley of demoralizing commentary could be heard above the construction.

“‘What are these feeble Jews doing? Will they fortify themselves? Will they offer sacrifices? Will they complete it in a day? Will they revive the stones from the heaps of rubbish—stones that are burned?’” (Neh. 4:2).

It didn’t stop there.

“‘Whatever they build, if even a fox goes up on it, he will break down their stone wall’” (v. 3).

It was at this point that Nehemiah and the many who joined him in the renewed dream of Israel faced an all-too-common crucifix of life.

“Then Judah said, ‘The strength of the laborers is failing, and there is so much rubbish that we are not able to build the wall’” (4:10).

In other words, the halfway point was the end of the line for Nehemiah. He was spent.

They had tried, sincerely tried, all of them. But it was over. It was the best shot anyone had taken in 94 years.

Zerubbabel? Ezra? Both great leaders. Neither of them had made the kind of progress Nehemiah made. But now, at the end of the day, Nehemiah was nothing more than a failure like them.

It’s a frightening thing to wake up one day and feel as if you’ve spent your whole heart but arrived only halfway. We all will face at some point the “half-finished wall” and realize we have nothing more to give—one day when the hard truth of gaps and deficits presents its brutal reality, when we see more openings in our life story than completions and more partial closures than finished promises.

When these gaps of unfinished ideas and promises combine with a demoralized state of mind they can create an overwhelming sense of defeat for the believer. Not only do we feel a lack of material to get the job finished, but also we’ve lost our vision for fulfillment.

Like Nehemiah, maybe your life was energized by a dream. Even though others had failed in the same course of action, something inside said: This time it can be different. I can do this. I can build or rebuild this into something better.

So construction on the dream began. There was real progress. Promise and potential propelled you forward, and your life felt energized. But then unexpected circumstances and unwelcome attacks became a daily occurrence.

Maybe it was a sudden lack of money, a sudden doubt in the mind, the betrayal of a trusted friend. Maybe you lost your physical energy or an old enemy rose up against you. Sometimes it is one of these. Most of the time, it’s all of them.

But whatever happened, your wall now stands half-done. Worse yet, all work has stopped.

Today might be the halfway point of your marriage—a marriage you thought would be farther along and look entirely different than it does. Maybe it’s the halfway point of a business dream, a ministry venture or a journey toward health.

Whatever your “wall” is, you find yourself facing the halfway point, and it seems you are out of everything you need both physically and emotionally to finish the task.

For Nehemiah, renewal came in the form of a four-part equation: shovels, swords, trumpets and families.

Nehemiah knew that the idea of a finished wall was God’s dream, not his. For that reason, living with an undone or half-finished wall was unacceptable.

God honored the restlessness in Nehemiah and unveiled a fresh and new way to get things moving again. Let’s look at God’s formula for Nehemiah and his people.

They found renewal through the shovel. “Those who built on the wall, and those who carried burdens, loaded themselves so that with one hand they worked at construction, and with the other held a weapon” (Neh. 4:17).

Nehemiah called the people back to work. Serving is at the heart of meaning and progress spiritually.

The “shovel in one hand” and “sword in the other hand” concept represents the proper balance between faith and works. Many try to shovel with both hands, but real progress requires balance.

Ask someone whose wall is half-done, someone who laid down the shovel long ago, someone who quit trying to pursue his dream, and he will tell you he has no strength left. But God is a God of new strength.

If your wall is half-done and you feel like quitting, it’s time for you to stand ready because new strength is rising.

They found renewal through the sword. “Therefore I positioned men behind the lower parts of the wall, at the openings; and I set the people according to their families, with their swords, their spears, and their bows” (Neh. 4:13).

You and I must never forget we are at war over the maturity of our souls. The greater the progress, the greater the intensity of attack.

The enemies of Nehemiah didn’t fight fair. They used conspiracy. This meant a combination of several stealthlike attacks that tore at their dignity, finances, composure and unity.

But Nehemiah understood the necessity for battle readiness. He told each worker to stay engaged with readied sword in hand.

For us today this means being prepared to engage in spiritual warfare. Servanthood alone will not get your wall going again. It takes prayer and spiritual mindedness at every turn.

They found renewal through the trumpet. “‘Wherever you hear the sound of the trumpet, rally to us there. Our God will fight for us’” (Neh. 4:20).

As difficult as it may seem, when you feel like abandoning God’s promises at the halfway point you must rediscover your passion for personal worship. Worship is about relationship, and relationship is about discovering refuge and refreshing from life’s fires—spiritual and otherwise.

The idea of “worship” comes from two Greek words, pros and kuneo. The word pros means “to move forward.” The word kuneo means, “to kiss with a sense of awe.” Earnest worship involves both a physical action and a loving intent, both a leaning forward with the body and a reaching out with the soul to touch with both life and lyric the divine magnificence of the Father.

Nehemiah knew the people needed this collective experience of worship as a rallying point. Personal worship has nothing to do with talent or musical savvy. It has to do with the desire to be close to God.

Worship is not a Sunday event. It is, however, a daily experience of seeing God as close but always a little above the plains of pain, struggle and need.

Collective worship is God’s way of drowning out the negative choirs around us. It is essential for getting past the halfway point in life.

They found renewal through family. “And I looked, and arose and said to the nobles, to the leaders, and to the rest of the people, ‘Do not be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, great and awesome, and fight for your brethren, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your houses’” (Neh 4:14).

In one of the more stunning yet revelatory moves ever seen in Scripture, Nehemiah positions his families in the open breaches of the wall. Common sense rejects such a move. Yet Nehemiah understood the power, strength and courage that come when families grasp their covenant bonds and stand as one.

When the people were at their lowest, feeling too weak and under-resourced to move forward and finish their wall, they found in relationship with one another the inspiration to fight. When the body of Christ chooses to lose its empires and instead find its brotherhood, something miraculous happens. We become like a brick wall before our enemies.

Family is the fortress that stands strongest against the enemy. Nehemiah tapped into that strength by calling them to remember their sons and daughters as they continued to fight and build.

Something wonderful happened to Nehemiah at the halfway point. Maybe something wonderful needs to happen to you as well.

Gaps and deficits at the halfway point can look ugly and intimidating. That is why so many lose heart and quit. It’s the most vulnerable point of the journey. But it is also the place where men and women find God in new and precious ways.

If you are struggling, first of all admit the struggle. Nehemiah cried out before one stone was reorganized and then had to cry out again when the wall was only half done.

The fact is, we need God for the entire journey. Even more liberating is this: God isn’t after our perfectly complete walls. He’s looking for something else—progress.


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Scott Hagan and his wife, Karen, pastor Mars Hill Church in Sacramento, California. He is the author of several books, including They Felt the Spirit’s Touch (Charisma House).
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2009, 05:03:31 PM »

Matthew 9:37 (New International Version)
Then he said to his disciples, "The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few.
Maka kata-Nya kepada murid-murid-Nya: "Tuaian memang banyak, tetapi pekerja sedikit.

Matius 28:18-20
Yesus mendekati mereka dan berkata: "Kepada-Ku telah diberikan segala kuasa di sorga dan di bumi.
Karena itu pergilah, jadikanlah semua bangsa murid-Ku dan baptislah mereka dalam nama Bapa dan Anak dan Roh Kudus, dan ajarlah mereka melakukan segala sesuatu yang telah Kuperintahkan kepadamu. Dan ketahuilah, Aku menyertai kamu senantiasa sampai kepada akhir zaman."
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