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« on: November 19, 2010, 07:09:05 AM »

Hi,
Can anyone tell me the base line mark for chemistry SPM? tq.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 12:28:30 PM »

Hi,
Can anyone tell me the base line mark for chemistry SPM? tq.

Cikgu Faridah, baseline kita akan sediakan dengan merujuk kepada pencapaian pelajar kita daripada peperiksaan percubaan dan keputusan sebenar dalam peperiksaan awam yang mereka perolehi. Jadi sukar melihat baseline yang standard antara satu sekolah dengan sekolah lain, antara satu bahagian dengan bahagian lain.. begitu juga dalam satu negeri pun, kita belum lagi mampu memperkenalkan baseline yang standard.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 01:03:18 PM »

tq cikgu kumar for replying..tapi..maybe cikgu boleh berikan dalam bentuk range yang sesuai untuk saya jadikan rujukan bagi membuat analisa..kerana di sekolah saya guru fizik menjadikan markah 10 sebagai baseline yg saya rasa terlalu rendah dan guru kimia pun tidak pasti apakah baseline yg sesuai dan mereka meletakkan 30 sebagai base line...diharapkan agar guru2 lain dapat berikan julat markah base line yg sesuai untuk dijadikan rujukan..your sharing is very much appreciated..tq..
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 05:07:37 PM »

Untuk Matematik SPM baseline bagi 3 tahun kebelakang untuk sekolah saya ialah 20-25 untuk Lulus (E).
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 05:41:45 PM »

tq cikgu goh..bagaimana dengan base line utk chemistry sekolah cikgu?
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 07:59:16 PM »

Nanti saya PM kepada Cikgu Faridah.......
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 09:42:23 PM »

Cikgu Faridah,

If you like to generate the baseline mark for Chemistry for your school ... I can help. Just email me the trial examination marks of the students and their corresponding SPM grade. We can't use the last three years as the grading system for 2009 is different from previous years. So I guess the data for year 2009 will have to do for the moment. Just email me (lim_helena@yahoo.com) the marks and actual SPM Chemistry grade. I don't need the names.

I am in the midst of writing a fully automated program to generate the baseline marks at SPM level. Until then I can help by using my current semi-automated system.

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2010, 09:56:03 PM »

Cikgu Lim, very kind of you...
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 10:31:55 PM »

Congratulation , Cikgu Lim it will be very helpful if can write a program that automatically return the base line. May I know what is the program that you are going to use.

The three years back baseline is important because we need to take average (taught by Macs JU). The baseline between years is quite consistent.

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2010, 10:45:08 PM »

Cikgu Kumar, tq for the PM..will be useful to me..
Cikgu Goh, tq for sharing..
Cikgu Lim, this part is the most interesting one..actually i haven't taught form 5 for 7 years but next year i'm back with form 5.Rite now i dont have the data with me, but i will try to get it from the school.i will send it through ur email once i got them.
Thanks a lot for your sharing.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2010, 05:50:08 PM »

I wrote the program in C language ... at the moment fully automated for PMR and UPSR level. I need to adjust the algorithm for SPM level.

Until that is stable I have my semi-automated approach using excel for SPM and STPM. However to use it I may need to conduct a workshop ... so if I can get a fully automated system going ... then you don't have to worry cos the baseline will be generated automatically. I hope to get that done by this year end. If you need me to generate the baseline for you I just need the trial exam marks and actual grade. I will email you the data file template for you to  fill the marks and actual grade for all students for a particular subject and year. Don't need to go by class. The more data (students) you have the higher the accuracy of the baseline mark generated.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 10:07:02 PM »

Cikgu Lim, memang saya tidak dapat bayangkan macam mana anda bersabar menghasilkannya menggunakan C Language.. Tahniah di atas kesabaran anda dan juga hasilnya pasti mengkagumkan. Saya akan hantar markah trial dan gred sebenar PMR kepada anda selepas Panitia siapkannya nanti. Sekadar nak mengetahui outputnya nanti.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 12:27:59 PM »

Thank you Kumaraveloo,

I will gladly find the baseline for your school for PMR and SPM too if you like. The fully automated program should be ready for distribution next year.

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 03:00:05 PM »

Congratulation Cikgu Lim programming by using c language could be quite complicated for this task and sound interesting. I may need your help next year when we do head count after PMR 2010 result and SPM 2010 result.

Thank you.
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2010, 02:51:00 PM »

The program to determine the baseline marks for subjects at PMR and UPSR level is ready for use. Please PM or email me if you are interested to try the program.
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2011, 04:46:10 PM »

Thumbs Up to u!! Wink
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2011, 04:22:07 PM »

Thank you Cikgu Wong
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