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« on: August 01, 2008, 11:37:25 PM »

last time my teacher told me that if we wanna answer the question like "huraikan nilai yang diamalkan oleh amin...", we should answer like this - amin mengamalkan nilai...
my teacher also say that we should not answer like this - nilai yang diamalkan oleh amin ialah....
but yesterday my teacher gave me the notes from those who set the question for 'ujian zon', they say we can answer like this - nilai yang diamalkan oleh amin ialah....
i am really confused now...
can we answer like that or not???
can we use the word "ialah" for nilai or not???
please help me...
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2008, 11:24:57 PM »

hello maggie..actually all the answer i correct. so far my school use  that answer, but word 'ialah' cannot be after nilai like definisi bagi nilai amanah ialah.....also cannot use word 'adalah' 'iaitu'..
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 11:32:58 AM »

Hello Maggie & Cikgu Nora. Setahu saya, tiada syarat yang terlalu ketat untuk menyatakan nilai menggunakan "ialah" atau "adalah". Untuk menjawab definisi/ maksud, boleh guna kedua-dua perkataan tersebut. Contoh.. maksud nilai amanah ialah sikap bertanggungjawab yang boleh menimbulkan kepercayaan dan keyakinan orang lain. kalau soalan yang memerlukan watak atau situasai. Contoh- nilai yang diamalkan oleh Amin ialah/ adalah..... @ Amin mengamalkan nilai....





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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2008, 09:06:46 PM »

hello semua..any way thanks cikgu rabiah.tp itulah information yg sy dpt. Perkataan ialah, adalah, iaitu tidak boleh digunakan selepas nilai. contoh : nilai hemah tinggi ialah........salah cara nie...confuseu gak sy.tp kesian kat murid.mereka pun pening sbb terpaksa wat ayat yg lain yg tidak menggunakan perkataan2 tersebut after nilai.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 05:21:55 PM »

thanks cikgu... Wink
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2008, 05:50:32 PM »

Seperti yang dinyatakan oleh Cikgu Rubiah adalah benar kerana tiada kriteria tertentu dalam penggunaan perkataan ialah sama ada sebelum atau selepas nilai.
Contoh:
1. Makna nilai ialah sesuatu .....
2. Nilai itu ialah sesuatu yang ....
3. Berikut ialah nilai-nilai yang..

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2008, 08:56:56 PM »

yg cikgu sy ajar...subjek perlu didahulukan...dan jgn letak perkataan "nilai" di hadapan sekali...walaupun jawapan betul, tapi tidak akan diberi markah,...

kalau soalan ada perkataan patut...mesti guna patut dalam jawapan...tak boleh guna harus, boleh, mesti dsb....bergantung kepada soalan...
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 10:07:50 AM »

In my opinion, the only reason not to use "ialah" and "iaitu" is to avoid the writing of "ayat pasif".  Normally, students are encouraged to write "ayat aktif" whereby "kata kerja" is used -  showing that they practice what they say.  For e.g.:
Ali mengamalkan nilai bertanggungjawab. (ayat aktif)
Rather than Nilai bertanggungjawab diamalkan oleh Ali.
Or  Nilai yang diamalkan oleh Ali ialah Nilai bertanggungjawab.  (this makes the sentence longer, takes longer time to write too).

The same case applies when answering questions of "maksud nilai":
Nilai bertanggungawab bermaksud ........ (ayat aktif)
Rather than Nilai bertanggungjawab ialah ......

Correct me if I am wrong.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 11:15:25 PM »

Sokong ckg Lee.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 11:28:15 PM »

In my opinion, the only reason not to use "ialah" and "iaitu" is to avoid the writing of "ayat pasif".  Normally, students are encouraged to write "ayat aktif" whereby "kata kerja" is used -  showing that they practice what they say.  For e.g.:
Ali mengamalkan nilai bertanggungjawab. (ayat aktif)
Rather than Nilai bertanggungjawab diamalkan oleh Ali.
Or  Nilai yang diamalkan oleh Ali ialah Nilai bertanggungjawab.  (this makes the sentence longer, takes longer time to write too).

The same case applies when answering questions of "maksud nilai":
Nilai bertanggungawab bermaksud ........ (ayat aktif)
Rather than Nilai bertanggungjawab ialah ......

Correct me if I am wrong.

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 08:33:49 PM »

In my opinion, the only reason not to use "ialah" and "iaitu" is to avoid the writing of "ayat pasif".  Normally, students are encouraged to write "ayat aktif" whereby "kata kerja" is used -  showing that they practice what they say.  For e.g.:
Ali mengamalkan nilai bertanggungjawab. (ayat aktif)
Rather than Nilai bertanggungjawab diamalkan oleh Ali.
Or  Nilai yang diamalkan oleh Ali ialah Nilai bertanggungjawab.  (this makes the sentence longer, takes longer time to write too).

The same case applies when answering questions of "maksud nilai":
Nilai bertanggungawab bermaksud ........ (ayat aktif)
Rather than Nilai bertanggungjawab ialah ......

Correct me if I am wrong.
 

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